6 May 2005

Updates on Bill Appleby's Hindenburg Research

Greetings Fellow SAS Members,

As the 6th of May draws near, I was recollecting my paper published in The Citizen Scientist about the Hindenburg disaster in 1937 (see "Airship Hindenburg: Experimental Study of the Involvement of the Outer Covering Paint (Dope) in the Disastrous Final Fire." I also remember that I promised to post what compounds were in the doping paint that was used for my experiments. In the list below I am also posting the paint thinners that were only used to keep clean the glassware and paint brushes. I recently got this information from Material Safety Data Sheets provided by the manufacturer.

These doping paints and thinners were purchased from Aircraft Spruce & Specialty Company (AS&SC). The supplier to the distributor was Certified Coatings Products Company (CCPC).

Material Safety Data Sheet from CCPC

Cellulose Acetate Butyrate Dope
AS&SC Product Name: 09-10500 CERT BUTYRATE DOPE CLEAR GAL
CCPC Product Name: Butyrate Dope CAB-150
Ingredient Listing: Acetone - Butyl Acetate - Toluene - Methyl Ethyl
Ketone - Cellulose Acetate Butyrate

Cellulose Nitrate Dope
AS&SC Product Name: 09-09500 CERT NITRATE DOPE CLEAR GAL
CCPC Product Name: Nitrate Dope
Ingredient Listing: Isopropyl Alcohol - Butyl Acetate - Toluene - Methyl
Ethyl Ketone - Nitrocellulose

Cellulose Acetate Butyrate Dope Thinner
AS&SC Product Name: 09-12000 CERT BUTYRATE THINNER GAL
CCPC Product Name: Butyrate Thinner
Ingredient Listing: Acetone - Diacetone Alcohol - Toluene - Methyl Ethyl
Ketone

Cellulose Nitrate Dope Thinner
AS&SC Product Name: 09-11500 CERT NITRATE THINNER GAL
CCPC Product Name: Nitrate Thinner
Ingredient Listing: Acetone -Isopropyl Alcohol - - Toluene - Naphtha-
Methyl Ethyl Ketone - 1 Methoxy-2-Propanol Acetate

There are two additional papers published elsewhere that compliment my research. The first paper, "The Hindenburg Hydrogen Fire: Fatal Flaws in the Addison Bain Incendiary-Paint Theory" (this is a pdf file), encouraged me to do the experiments.

The second paper, "The Hindenburg Fire: Hydrogen or Incendiary Paint? (this is a pdf file), was published in Buoyant Flight. I am a co-author of this paper.

A listing of other links about the issue is found at Hindenburg Hydrogen Fire.

I hope this has helped.

Regards,
William H. Appleby
Fellow SAS Member

Thanks from DinoDig

Editor,

Just saw the article about Southwestern Adventist University's DinoDig ("The Bone Bed: Excavating Dinosaur Remains in Wyoming," The Citizen Scientist, 22 April 2005). It was great to see it online at your site. We appreciate you giving us the space.

Sharon Potter
Participant 2002 & 2003

Web Tips from Bill Appleby

Editor,

These sites may be of interests to Citizen Scientists

Weather Data:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/epaper/2005/04/21/m1a_wx_0421.html
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Proposed_bill_could_force_federal_weather_data_offline

New Mammal:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/New_rodent_discovery_leads_to_new_mammal_family

Regards,

William H. Appleby

Flounder Update from Jamie Farr

Dear Forrest,

Recently a local newspaper on Long Island published an article by a charter boat captain explaining his feelings about the small populations of winter bay-bound flounder found here. Instead of saying that over fishing led to the decline, he uses the idea that the renewed striped bass fishery led to more predation of bay founders(pleuronectes communis). His observations are that striped bass catches coincide with the flounder peaks in our bays. I've thought about doing a good survey of these small flounders, which tend to only remain in bays, as opposed to the larger and more common Pleuronectes pleuronectes or American flounder.

I've been observing, too.

Number one, the bass fishery is dependent on the egg laying ability of the stripers.The right salinity in upper reaches of creeks and rivers directly affect
their ability to reproduce. I have seen correlations between large and small mouth mass populations in salt-water-connected lakes, with good striped bass catches. Therefore the cleanliness of our bays and rivers, and the clarity and salinity of their waters, is paramount to good bass catches of any species.

Number two, the incidence of my own winter flounder catches do not correlate with the bass catches I get. I believe other factors keep the small bay flounder
going. First, I believe they hide deep in the mud and hibernate over winter. Striped bass and the American flounder both migrate to the sea. Also, the small winter
flounder has a particular season where it is fished. It is actually fished commercially all winter long. I used to see a net dredge that trawled in our River off Moriches Bay all winter. It was our Brookhaven Town bay constable counting the numbers of clams and winter flounder.

The clamming industry has declined here and the bluefish populations have declined, all due to over harvesting. I also feel the winter flounder is in decline. But
a good study of their numbers and their true behavior may shed more light on their ability to survive those enormous fishing pressures. Their price per pound at the
fish market has only gone up one dollar over a period of twenty years.

Jamie Farr


   
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